https://tonyortega.org/2016/04/28/a-scientologist-heading-for-suicide-the-missing-tayler-tweed-facebook-postings/. I went in GREAT details EXACTLY quoting from the that episode all the parts where Leah, Mike, and Lauren BLAMED Cathy Tayler for the death of her daughter without showing one IOTA of proof beyond HEARSAY. Despite Hubbards blovations about curing mental aberrations, the church knows they do not have the solution to insanity. I think it is the show that has created this belief that Scientologists dont go to Doctors. Why do you think that Cathy Tweed would not second guess herself every single day? I am so grateful for my amazing parents and brother, whose love is unconditional, and support unwavering no matter how bad or misguided my youth was. I mean, she LITERALLY begged them to let her stay, but she couldnt even go inside the building. New this week 0. I understand. That must be the most fallacious argument that Ive ever heard! Basically, its not a universal given that family has to be placed first in the search for spiritual freedom unless thats your belief. Fortunately, I was able to take the mother of my daughter off the lines after she has been kept for almost 50 hours!!! Clearly Leah and Mike have some type of agenda, and as you point out, it is not reformation. I cant fault you on your logic., Clearly Leah and Mike have some type of agenda, and as you point out, it is not reformation., Thinking about this a bit more, the only set policy regarding suicide that Im aware of, is the routing-in metered interviews to the HGC (and possibly on sec checks), designed to filter-out undesirables. Even to go so far to say (paraphrase), If the body is sick, force it to dig a ditch. I dont know of such a policy regarding that specific case of TRs & Objectives, but I DO know about other policies (or HCOBs Hubbard Communications Office Bulletins) that requires having a physical examination and full medical checkup before being allowed to receive auditing. Tayler had not been out of Scientology very long, and the fear of modern medicine stuck with her still. My God, and you dare criticize Scientologists by their alleged lack of compassion? Are we expected to believe that in the allegedly most powerful country in the world, there is a mighty church who is guilty of many illegalities left and right, but that somehow the mighty USA government is totally incapable of doing anything about it, and for DECADES? HCO BULLETIN OF 11 JULY 1973RB RE-REVISED 21 SEPTEMBER 1978, ASSIST SUMMARY. She went from a Where is Leah these days to a Leah Remini is an awesome badass. It all became a psychological bull shit of plain invalidations and case evaluations. Why is that? Seems that most of her information came from FB and text messages that Tayler had with a friend. The reg was flabbergasted with me but he finally said, Well if you just dont want to do it then I wont make you do it. Certainly, if one is sick to begin with, then the HCOPL: Policies on Physical Healing, Insanity and Sources of Trouble applies, specifically on this point : 3. But we auditors know better than to hate and punish. If I were to drop dead in the sauna then the cult could say, Well he passed his physical exam by a medical doctor. But the second time was before another cycle of action. Here is what ACTUALLY LRH said about medical doctors. Part of the questionnaire, included questions to locate what was called Illegal PCs as per the ILLEGAL PCS, ACCEPTANCE OF HIGH CRIME BULLETIN PL. I cannot believe Scientology turned this mother into coal when it comes to her own flesh and blood! Hundreds or thousands (or even millions) individuals thinking in one direction, against a few of us who got tired of being one-sided and used as sheeple to support a narrative made up of injustice, generalizations, and desires for punishment and revenge. No one organization is to blame for this. Can be really call that a Desire at reformation? Everett R. Tweed, III "Gene" MEGGETT, S.C. - Everett R. "Gene" Tweed, III, 77, of Meggett, husband of Betty B. Tweed, died Saturday, June 27, 2009 at Roper Hospital . Other groups were not the topic. And so it is a waste of time to harp on that if you really want to make scientology less dangerous. But that doesnt alter the fact that she wasnt any longer on the public eye not that she necessarily needed any money. So, they have this idea, that if they publically expose the churchs harmful practice, and rub their nose in it, that the church will reform and cease such actions. Take effective measures to correct such wrongdoings where and when they have occurred. She states very clearly that she took her to the University of Oregon where she was examined by 10 different doctors. Require a physical examination from whatever practitioners of the physical healing arts may be competent and available;, 2. I will look into this in every detail of it to connect a few dots, and to fill the vacuum of lack of enough information with facts instead of assumptions. But ask MILLIONS of Americans who are into alternative medicine and natural remedies if they will ever consider using any psychotropic drug, and I am sure that the most probable answer from the GREAT majority of them would be, NO, I would not. Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. Damian Milton Obituary, What was Damian Milton Cause of Death? Larry Hale. There was no need to insult you. You seem to be on the fence. Most people, unless there was some kind of religious or ideological vengeance they wanted to exact, would never do such a thing to someone like that. Im sure you know that there are other religions that dont believe in medical treatment, either and that this is actually a matter of freedom of religion. Mr. Tweed was born in Greeneville, TN and son of James W. "Buddy" & Nora O. Could it be that you ARE one???? If Tayler Tweed was diagnosed with Bipolar, then of course she would be good on programs and bad off them. I think the important baseline to keep in mind is the law. I told you this little story, so that others here understand that not ALL of us were uncompassionate and ignorant of how to REALLY help someone. You see, I feel that we must be very careful with mixing the religious aspect of Scientology with its psychotherapeutic aspect. A woman is married to a known fundamentalist Jehovah Witness minister. Cmon open your bloggers eyes. I WAS THERE. Yes, I pity this family, but they are not innocent. It is the same with for example, priests who are also trained clinical psychologists, and who besides using the scriptures as a priest to spiritually orient the individuals he/she is trying to help, he also uses the tools of his trade as a trained clinical psychologist (or other type of psychotherapist) to help his parishioner. I was on staff on technical lines, so I was privy to this kind of information. And they are all good friends, as far as I know. Progress Remini and Rinder's exploitation of Tayler's death prompted her mother to write to A&E, stating "I am horrified that A&E and Leah Remini are exploiting for financial gain the tragic death of my daughter Tayler Tweed who died by suicide three years ago. With that being said, lets further investigate the truth and details of Tyler Tweed Obituary. You know, thats EXACTLY the problem with the AGREED UPON anti-Scientology narrative, Claire, that you take as facts statements that are NOT necessarily facts, and that ACTUALLY, are assumptions not backed up by ANY evidence whatsoever, but which are mostly based on HEARSAY evidence (someone told me that he heard.. kind of thing). Mr. Tweed was born in Washington County and son of the late Eugene & Lena Ball Tweed. Instead of being referred to a mental health provider, the church attempted to sell another expensive auditing package to her family. And that it then forbids its parishioners from trying out medications is actually, literally, dangerous for Scientologists who suffer from depression. THEY TREAT PEOPLE WORSE THAN THE NAZIS! I dont want to put you on the spot, but you are really putting Cathy Tweed on the spot very harshly here. Two years ago, we told you about Tayler Tweed, a 27-year-old Scientologist who had been working on a career in music and acting under the name Tayler DeBari before she killed herself at the home of some friends in Fullerton, California on January 10, 2014. There have been manslaughter convictions of Christian Scientists and others who kept their own children from the medical care they needed and ended up in prison. Obituary SARAH AND AUGUSTUS TWEED WOODMANSEE February - 15, 1987 - June 11, 2015 Sarah Michelle Tweed Woodmansee,28, and her unborn son Augustus 'Gus' Tweed Woodmandsee, passed away at home surrounded by those who loved them most. How do you know that for a fact, Alanzo, if you dont mind telling me? E) Getting the person to put his/her MEST in order by giving him one simple step to do each day. The suicide rate among young adults and teens has been growing over the past few decades. Not me, TC. Period. Following the death information, people wonder what was Tyler Tweed cause of death. Ill check that out too. He often would refer to the body as a second class citizen, or imply it was a trap; that you need to grab it by the scruff of the neck and take charge. But Im not convinced it should be up to them or any other government or private agency to say how the ill should be treated. This way, more trust can be built among Scientology practitioners and society which is what Scientologists must focus on, IMHO. Taylor was never shown any kindness this church simply needs to be stopped. We just said, Sign here please, so you dont suit our asses, and then go ahead and do on them : A VERY high ARC kind of VERY compassionate treatment. At one point, she expressed frustration at being blamed for making her SO brother ill (whom she had not seen for years). Wow, what a most accurate and balanced post indeed!!! Guest12, the church (as you called it, which irrelevant to the point under discussion), DID made attempts to prove them wrong by sending the executives of A&E letters of protests, and by specific videos done by the family members (who are still in the church) of those individuals being talked about in the show. Yeah, Dave Luck, thats a very sad truth indeed! She states that she did take her daughter to doctors, but what kind of doctors? I could not do anything like that. Ouch! And as to people like my dad, well, Scientology starts as basic self help courses with a strong pop psychology aspect to them. Unfortunately we have little . Avoid the cult at all costs. Maybe if she had felt more support in her own family or in her own mother, instead of being publicly criticized by the very people whom should always be on her side, she wouldnt have taken such drastic measures. Because medical science has advanced since the publication of Science of Survival (66 years), and because these advancements save peoples lives, then it is extremely unethical even from the perspective of a Scientologist to forbid these treatments after everything else has been tried. Belief in aliens, and auditing, going clear and of course the extraterrestrial nonsense is ludicrous. That is pathetic. But what we have from BOTH sides is the dramatization of a huge Service Facsimile (You are wrong; I am totally right), that totally blind both parties from sensible communication. Nothing could be further from the truth; the anti-psychiatry movement has always existed PRIOR to Scn, and has been supported by many medical doctors and psychotherapists THEMSELVES, and by a large portion of the population (though I am not quoting any percentages here, but certainly, there are in the thousands!). VETERAN Obituary H.L. But, no one who watches a documentary, should walk away and think they know everything about the subject matter. I have never, not once, seen a parent state they were blameless. Any professional therapists SHOULD also seek legal protection, and there isnt anything immoral about that. Come on, how obvious does it have to get? Carl Smith, Jr. Georgie Ann Glaser. A&E's teaser for the upcoming episode shows a picture of my beautiful daughter." Regular medical care is allowed though Hubbard did and members do tend to look down on traditional medical care. My local AO wouldnt deliver this, instead either hat a family member, or turn it over to a field auditor. He was born February 13, 1998, in Madison, WI to Steven and Jo Ann Tweed. Burn in Hell. I say this with affection. Not any longer. At one point in time, this lady dared to question one of her husbands beliefs, which enraged the man resulting in a heavy beating and even rape of this lady. Harry James Tweed, 65, was a life-long resident of Cape May County, moving to Cape May at the age of seven months, to Rio Grande in 1959, and later to Middle Township. Absolutely avoid the question??? If people come to me and are not ready to abandon their fathers, mothers, wives, children, brothers, and sisters, as well as their own lives, they cannot be my disciples.. And how could someone stand right next to her kid in a ticket line at the airport or at the funeral and say nothing. I just couldnt resist it, . Send flowers. She just refers to her as a troubled young woman. I can see the public interest perspective with this series and and other productions that seek to find a story and tell it,, it has been created with key words cult secret confidential gulag ,, and so on not to mention the mood music and lighting,,, Its what media does,, its never enough just to have a story confined to the specifics and analyse it,,,no one buys that approach anymore.. She states that she did take her daughter to doctors, but what kind of doctors? He was a member of Mt. A Scientologist heading for suicide - the missing Tayler Tweed Facebook postings - 2016-04-28 And what drives TV? Her family tried to handle and began to disconnect, leaving Tayler very much adrift. Dont you know that I like to feel certain about things? This is TV were talking about. Either way, your assertions arent factual. I highly doubt that. Thats just rhetorical horse shit! It is called, POLICIES ON PHYSICAL HEALING, INSANITY AND SOURCES OF TROUBLE written on 27 Oct 1964 : Any process labeled healing, old or new, refers to healing by mental and spiritual means and should therefore be looked upon as the relief of difficulties arising from mental and spiritual causes., The proper procedure in being requested to heal some complained-of physical disability is as follows:, 1. Sorry for all my delusional conspiracies, haha. Unlikely. And that would be one way of reforming the abuses in Scientology, and making Scientology technology safer for Scientologists. I highly doubt that Cathy Tweed would allow that. So they should pay taxes as any other professionals from the psychotherapy community do. And its ridiculous to expect the church to reform along these lines.. For decades it was even taught in schools that they were quacks which I think was said about anything that wasnt medicine and under the control of the AMA. Now, I challenge anyone to show me ANY reference where Scientology prohibits seeing a medical doctor; ANY. Apparently it was a policy set by Hubbard that one needed to find out about any health issues and then get it or them taken care of before starting this course. Either you are dumb enough to do it or your not. You are not the victim in this story, there is only one. The first time Tony reported on Tayler Tweed was from a phone conversation with her mother the day after her daughters funeral. You guys are cowards and pieces of shit for having her ceremony at Celebrity Center. I am no expert at Public Relations, but I am no amateur, neither. But there is a general dysfunction in Scientology technology that treats the brain like no other organ in the body. They know who they are,, and will leave it at that. But thats obviously not good enough for you. (Mick) Peacefully at rest on 30th September 2022 at the Royal Stoke. However, here is the information we fetched from Tyler Tweed. This is what we need, being fair and balanced, and showing both sides of the coin while remaining compassionate to all sides. Things CAN be reversed for the great good, and sanity can be restored. Caring for the insane is costly and time-consuming and requires resources. The youngest son of Ethel Mummert and Harve Mummert, Tweed lived all of his life in the Macomb area. And how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment?, Nice try, Gtsix, but I know better than to fall into the traps of rhetoric, . So lets look at this. No real mother would ever be truly at peace with a child blowing their head off. D) A good nutritional diet that provided all essential nutrients. Then you have the standard Scn reference covering EVERYTHING about Assists (Scientology physical healing type of processes) and how to go about it if a PC (Preclear the one undergoing Scientology counseling) gets sick. We were trained to be able to raise above our own cases, and to keep our Acts One in (Straightwiring out the reasons why we didnt want to help a certain PC). It is a dangerous brain illness. This is always a liability for anyone seeking the truth. He was announced dead on Thursday 15th December on Facebook. However, most Scn watchers do not have the time, resources, or capacity to explore all facets of a Scn-related event. Mrs. Pamela Devone Taylor Edwards age 52 of 1098 Teakwood Drive, Greenville, NC died Sunday February 26, 2023. They married three years later in 2013 and had two children-Luke Joseph Bass (8) and . That is what a strawman is. Feel free to add me to your undesired list. I am Jim Dandy and Im here to the rescue. Case in point, the DeCrescenzo lawsuit brought forced abortions to the forefront, the reaction from the church no more abortions (so Im told). The unlikeliness of reform does not come from a group but only from one single individual. There are always at least two sides to every story usually many more. Are they, really? Sorry that Alanzo spoiled our fun, haha. A LOT, I assure you, one of them being myself, and another being the mother of my daughter. Did you miss this from my reply? Getting licensed is actually a great idea for auditors dealing specifically with the mentally ill as opposed to those auditors dealing with the more stable ones. Thats why I left staff even though I continued being a Scientologist. Do you see the absurdity of your argument, Mr. Critical Thinking? Dont get me wrong, She is a GREAT artist, and she seems to be a GREAT lady. But Im sure that for anyone who has buried their child, the day after is still the same day.. But, for now, there were not many telecasts of Tyler Tweeds death cause on the news or any orbitary statements. Is my post to be interpreted that there arent many, many psychiatrists who try to do the best they can do for their patients, and who concentrate on less invasive, and more alternative ways of effectively treating their patients? She was regularly having suicidal thoughts and always been sent to auditing or naturopaths instead of to a competent mental health provider. Yep ,,,, I am beginning to believe the man at the top is deliberately creating situations to implode the group,, He has already positioned himself into the only one category Tech Dict: All criminals are in that bracket ,,, His tone floats around the hostile band, and his ideals are clearly MEST related ,,, The Org Bd has long since been dropped and by-passed in favor of command channels only. http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Scientology_Suicides#The_dead_cannot_tell_us, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder, (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). "Tweed" Mummert passed away at McDonough District Hospital on January 3rd, just 3 weeks shy of his 98 th birthday. Explain to me why she was so extremely desperate to be heard. And how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment? He was born to Lynda LeGrone Bass and R. Eugene Bass, MD on May 18, 1982 in Atlanta, Georgia. For Christs sakes, what is Thursday Funnies and Regraded Being about If not about mocking the church? No, he DIDNT; read the policies on it. I dont know where this idea that Scnists dont believe in doctors came from (Leah? Nobody does. Did you read those letters and watched those videos as well so as to have a more balanced viewpoint on the scenario? Plus it is now becoming more evident that there was a lot more to the story regarding Tayler and her mother which was left out of the episode. They will KICK YOU OUT!! Mr. Dennis Wayne "Butch" Tweed, age 69, Limestone, passed away peacefully Saturday, February 25, 2012 at his residence surrounded by his family. She always made time for them while they played on the field . Tayler Woolston Obituary, Death - The North Tonawanda community said a student who had a very special place in their hearts passed away this past week. Scn, as an activity, is very much self-centered; and VERY focused on the able (e.g. It says that in order to know you first have to be willing to completely not know, in which case the universe will be open to you. Ex Ireland rugby player David Tweed dies aged 61 | Daily Mail Online Davy Tweed, 61, played international rugby five times for Ireland in the 1990s The unionist politician was convicted of. Lets follow your logic with an analogy, shall we? How many times was I PERSONALLY told about this by the people who had this experience? As a rather usual phenomenon that we Puerto Ricans cant still understand, Irma went off towards the North just as it was approaching the island. If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license. But, lets just face the facts..it was awfully tempting to run with the Tayler story because one of her best Scientology friends was the daughter of Hollywoods own Alex Gibney. As you say, it was the decision to air that segment using only Tony Ortegas information with no attempt to update it with anything new, or even fair, that I believe is the height of cruel emotional manipulation by Mike Rinder, Leah Remini, and the rest of the shows producers. The problem with this is that the brain can get sick. But a court room and a TV show are two different arenas. Find Funeral Notices, Death Notices, Obituaries and Funeral Director services in Australia | page 1 I dont think you do. TAYLOR BASS OBITUARY. He married Nelda Niceswanger on Oct. 27, 1956, in Chetek. This is Taylor Tweeds mother and brother speaking out about how they feel about Taylors suicide being featured on A&Es Scientology and the Aftermath. Its often hard to predict who is truly suicidal. Thats how they get people hooked. Funeral arrangements are incomplete by Don Brown Funeral Home in Ayden, NC. Getting rid of David Miscavige as _Chairman of the Board and having to answer to the US government or lose their tax exemption is.. You are way to eager to defend Cathy and this so called church. Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. I do think Mike Rinder shouldve spoken up and recommended, Hey lets find another story where it is more apparent that the tech was a major factor in a suicide. Maybe you are just a willing participant to their manipulation. In your blog post, you write There is a lot of information that neither Tony Ortega, nor Rachel Bernstein, nor Leah Remini, nor Mike Rinder have given you, yet I see no actual proof of any information, only anecdotal accounts of how they tried to help her. There isnt really hate involved. Or am I going too fast? But shes a Scientologist, so what do we care about that, right? Its similar to families who bring their kids up seeming to dote on them, but murder them in an honor killing lately. If I remember right it was a tough decision that went to the Supreme Court and that was with regard to children. Also, orgs pretty standardly recommend parishioners seek medical treatment for a physical condition. As to the tax exemption thing, my own personal opinion on this is that even though that Scientology might very well fall into the category of a religion, its principal activities are not religious in nature, but psychotherapeutic as an institution that SELLS therapeutic services and make a profit from it. (Dot) Dorothy passed away peacefully at The . Yeah, we all know the answer to that question I think. When most anti-Scientologists refer to The church is doing this or that, and so on, or The church is Fair Gaming this or that one, they fail to recognize that they are ACTUALLY referring to ONE single individual whose orders are being robotically followed. One keeps building on the wisdom because ones data in the world of duality keeps increasing, while at the same time ones ability to connect with the divine (non-duality) also increases. I have to say that I have little respect for your experience with suicide survivors if it results in a comment like this. If they were, their approach in the show would be different, and they would be more careful with the facts and about not making generalizations out of a few instances and stereotyping the Scientologists in general. She admitted that she had made multiple suicide attempts in previous years. Tyler is a 2016 graduate of Marshall High School. Certainly, the church needs to be more compassionate in general, especially with their existing public. The No.1 UK for funeral notices, where you can search over 5,001,904. It is unnatural. Now she is defending the cult. And like me, there were others who had to do the same. I am tired the shit of you guys. This show wasnt about Kathy Tweed! Dj Sumbody Obituary, What was Dj Sumbody Cause of Death? So lets just stick to the kindness, love, and respect, shall we? She was making contact with family members who had left the church, and expressing her outrage at church fundraising and treatment of SO staff. That, btw, is the key principle I believe Marty is standing up for. I quote from it : Injuries, operations, delivery of babies, severe illnesses and periods of intense emotional shock all deserve to be handled with thorough and complete assists., Medical examination and diagnosis should be sought where needed, and where treatment is routinely successful, medical treatment should be obtained., As an assist can at times cover up an actual injury or broken bone, no chances should be taken, especially if the condition does not easily respond. Second guessing a mother who has lost a daughter to suicide like this is pretty cruel, dont you think? 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